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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Dec 22, 2009 2:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jer on Taping

inside Jer's head — this is a good place to repeat this post
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Jer answers "the Taping question"

this material is pure gold

Raddison Hotel, room 1503
St. Paul, Mn.
July 10, 1981

— the "taping" question —



journalist Greg Harrington asks, "Jerry, not many bands - if any, aside from The Dead, allow people in to tape record their concerts, and it's something that The Dead have always done. And, what are your feelings along this line? It brings alot of joy to alot of people."

Jerry Garcia, "Well, my feelings are the music is for the people. You know it's like, ahh, I mean after it leaves our instruments, it's of no value to us, you know what I mean? It's like what good is it? So it might as well be taped, my feeling is. And if people enjoy taping it, and enjoy having the tapes to listen to, that's real great. I can sympathize with it, because I used to do alot of taping myself when I was in bluegrass band. I went out of my way to tape shows and I know what that's like. And since what we do is live music, I mean thats ahhh..."

Greg, "Well I think the tapes really capture the magic of the band."

Jerry, "Well that's what everybody says. That's why people tape, you know. I certainly can't ... you can't fight with that, you know. I don't understand why people would object, you know. That's the way I feel about it."

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Dec 22, 2009 2:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jer on Taping

I seem to recall there was post of a different Jerry interview from around 1973 where he was very much against taping. I seem to recall another post about tapers being hassled around that time by the crew which would be consistent with him not being thrilled with taping. So apparently Jerry was not very consistent on this and therefore there is no way to know where he would stand on the subject in today's digital format, internet trading world.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Dec 22, 2009 4:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jer on Taping

I fully agree with you. And I agree with HF too, but he forgot to mention DTS 5.1 dolby surround sound - taking MTXs to a whole new level, and trading on DVDs. To combine what you've both just said, today's traders are "getting into this stuff." For the past several years, they have been trading 1 TB drives, or bigger, loaded with 'all of it'. This tiny little Audio sliver is but one small piece of what's trading on the Internet. It complicates the matter of archiving original live music tapes - be it AUDs or SBDs.

Some established artists are alive today, some are playing now, many have played in several bands, and some have passed away. I met many musicians. I have been a fly on the wall countless times. I never met a musician who didn't have tapes. My desire is to make sure all this live music content gets archived, and becomes undeletable - regardless of circulation and legal issues - including photos, films, and video tapes. Studio projects and commercial material are a separate matter.

The way things are setup around here on The Archive, all the artists and bands get to control everything - ALL THE TIME. That's the way it should be. The Lee's tapes are in deteriorating condition. They are also proprietary property. These tapes are the most complicated live music collection I've ever seen mentioned on The Archive. It's easy for me to cheer-lead from the sidelines.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Dec 22, 2009 4:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jer on Taping

"Some established artists are alive today, some are playing now, many have played in several bands, and some have passed away. I met many musicians. I have been a fly on the wall countless times. I never met a musician who didn't have tapes. My desire is to make sure all this live music content gets archived, and becomes undeletable - regardless of circulation and legal issues - including photos, films, and video tapes. Studio projects and commercial material are a separate matter."

I believe this is precisely the goals of the IA and why we have this place. It is also why many of us get pissed when discussions of how to circumvent the artists wishes pop up as the artists can ultimately decide not to allow such a public archive of their material.

Monte, I think you laid out a great explanation for why this is such a difficult and evolving issue. You can cheerlead all you want, but I would much rather see posts like this than rehashing of that Jerry quote which imo has become more of a chiche than something of substance. Great post.

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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 22, 2009 2:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jer on Taping

Please nudge the needle. It's skipping again.

None of the current band members or the heirs to the vault(both GD and JGB) seem to give a loaf about Jer's opinions of tapers and taping. In addition, I believe Jerome was specifically referring to audience captures of the band's concerts. Not SBD's or SBD patches or MATRIX jobs.

Every time I read Jerry's noble(and out-dated) stance on taping, my brain refuses to ignore that 10,000# pink elephant.